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Yes I am SO RIGHT, thanks for noticing

by joeabercrombie on Jul.23, 2009, under Brent Weeks and Joe Abercrombie

“I know Joe has a persistent need for affirmation”

Everyone knows this, though at least I don’t have an “OFFICIAL NETWORK” FORUM FOR PEOPLE TO TELL ME HOW GREAT I AM, with thread titles like, “High Praise to Brent Weeks,” or “thankyou Mr. Weeks,” or ”We love Brent Weeks so much we’re just going to burst.”  Alright, that last one isn’t true.

“and I’m a nice guy”

So you say…

“bookmark this page.”

Meh.  I bookmark THESE PAGES, to keep me SHARP AND ANGRY.

“I’m taking the high road”

Don’t pretend either one of us knows where the high road is.

“I’d like to broaden this discussion”

Very well, Weeks, I will broaden with you.  What does the reader owe his/her audience?  Well this question brings up first for me the recent and ongoing to-do that Dadawa alludes to in the comments, of readers carping about various series books that are delayed to some extent or other.  My opinion on this basically is that readers have no choice but to suck it up.  A shame, but there it is.  Wait or walk away.  There is no obligation on the reader, after all, to continue buying or reading a series.  Why must there be a corresponding obligation on the writer?

Now, of course, it behooves a writer, strongly behooves, some might say, to do various things, like finish a series once begun.  It probably also behooves him or her to deliver books in a timely manner, as much for the goodwill that it will foster with publisher and booksellers as with readers.  But the fact is no writer is ever going to deliberately delay delivery (check my alliteration, CHECK IT) except when they feel they really have to.  They are the very, very last people who want to upset their readers, defer their royalty cheques and imperil the success of the work into which they have poured years of their valuable time and effort.  But the thing that it most behooves a writer to do is to write good books, and the major reason books get delayed is because the author wants them to be as good as they can be.  And that, I think, is the author’s real responsibility to his or her readers - to write the best books possible.  Usually that means the most truthful, honest, authentic books possible.  No one gives a toss about writers who deliver rubbish books like a metronome.  They care about great books.  If they come regularly, it’s a bonus, but it isn’t one anyone should count on…

Now as far as what an author owes in terms of internet presence, I’d broadly go with what I said in my last post, namely that a writer should pick their level of involvement and stick to it.  There’s nothing wrong with having nothing to do with the internet at all.  I’m sure a writer can still be plenty successful without it, and its easy to forget when you spend a lot of time piddling about on the internet that not everyone does, by any means.  But if you are going to run a website, I think it is pretty useless, if not out-and-out damaging, to run one that’s rubbish and extremely rarely updated.  If you’re going to do something, you should try to do it well.  You wouldn’t turn up to a signing in filthy rags stinking of wee and neat scotch.  Well, I wouldn’t, anyway.  Probably.  Nor should you put your worst foot forward on the internet.  If you’re going to be involved, be involved to the best of your ability (however limited that ability may be, Weeks).

As to the specific websites you mention, the daily word thing is just a big kick in the teeth from Sanderson to every other author in existence.  It would appear the man can write a book with each hand while knocking off a novella with one foot.  He is a MACHINE.  In fact I’m starting to suspect he may be twelve different people, or perhaps he’s got a cellar full of orphans working overtime.

Oh, man, though, I’m glad you brought up that picture of me.  I could look at that picture all DAY.  Look at me SMOULDER.  But yeah, fair point, I guess the old black and white thing is a bit cheesy.  Still, it could be worse.  It could be black and white with A BUNCH OF RED ROSES OVER MY SHOULDER.  As for big authors who don’t need a web page at all, well, of course there are some.  China Mieville, as you point out, would never post on the internet.

On a slightly different but related note, and since I take your point about making you start, I received an email from a reader the other day which went a-little-something-like-this:

do you think that the nihilistic themes and despicable characters carry a risk of alienating some of your readers? Do you think that even a slightly more moderate tone would broaden your audience? Personally, I feel too depressed to buy any more of your books, no matter how good the reviews.”

Score!  Do writers, then, as this e-mailer would seem to imply, have a responsibility to not alienate their readers?  To moderate tone and broaden audience?  Do writers of epic fantasy, in particular, owe it to their readers to give them the types of stories or endings that they expect?

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10 Comments for this entry

  • Susanne

    Er, NO.

    But you already knew this. ;)

  • CJ

    When you say it keeps you sharp and focused, I have to honestly say I lol’d because one of the first reviews on there calls it “dull”. *Ducks and covers*

    Also, AWW CRAP GUYS. Us people on the network got found out! Sorry Brent! :( We need a better way to hide ourselves. Maybe it should be called the “BIRD WATCHING” network instead, to hide our true identity. Brent Weeks. Bird Watching. BW. Perfect cover up, right? (Well, it’s not as effective if I’m talking about it here, eh?)

    Also, oh snaps at both of you guys. Getting below the belt there attacking each others’ pictures, aren’t you? :O I thought this was a debate - not mudslinging! Shame shame.

    *Keeps watching the “debate” unfold, with popcorn and candy*

  • Rev

    You’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. I’m curious about what you two think about the REAL important issues of the day- i.e.. Zombie books!

  • David J. West

    “the nihilistic themes and despicable characters” is laughable.
    That’s why I read Abercrombie. Though I must admit that they are not despicable characters to me.

    The neat and tidy, all loose ends wrapped up with a picture perfect ending are more crippled than Glokta. There is only so much disbelief that can go around and by not having a realistic ending, you have lost me and others as well.

    Don’t change what you’re doing Joe, except to make it even better. But a happy flowery ending with smiling pink faeries and snuggly blue dragons to appeal to the YA crowd? Never.

  • dyginc

    Joe went all guarilla style on you Brent—to dig up your facebook pic…lmao!
    Okay i think the whole Map issue should be one you bring up…Joe against and Brent for…

  • Craterus

    Funny stuff, So far I make it 8 - 7 in Joes favour for scoring punches landed… I haven’t counted the first post so brent has a post in hand. (I thought the greyscale photo reference of Brents was a great 1-2 combo as well, best punch landed so far).

    Come on boys, out of your corner..None of this good clean fight business, we want a dirty, low balling all out street fight!

  • TS

    I have to agree with David J. West. I love your “despicable characters,” Joe. It takes a special kind of talent to write imperfect, at times even nasty people and still make them appealing. I root for Glokta and Jezal. I feel more strongly for them than I ever did for a character like Faramir (not to disparage Tolkien, whom I love) who is good all the time.

    Don’t give us “what we expect.” Give us a challenge. Throw us for a loop. Keep us guessing. Where’s the fun in reading something when you already know how it’s going to turn out?

  • PiscesMuse

    Going to post comment without reading other comments just so I can say what I need to say without feeling like I might be ripping someone else off.

    Absolutely not. DO NO write typical endings. Don’t do it. Don’t write books with typical characters. Write the unexpected. That is what is gripping and keeps a reader going back for more. Their is to much typical stuff that they can go to and read if that is what they desire. Be different if you can. If you have the talent to write a novel with characters that are not typical and endings that are unexpected than do so. Don’t waist your talent creating a book just because it might reach a broader audience.

    I am sure someone in the above comments has said it better, but I needed to say it all the same. My first reaction was a resounding NO!!!! and that was all I was going to write. NO!!!!!!!

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